Archived Letters ... Archived from 10/97 - 11/01
to the "Deception In The Church" Web Page
Following are some letters that I hope will encourage you like they have encouraged me.  I have hundreds more as our web site receives many pieces of e-mail each day.  I have been saving e-mails related to the site for a long time so I decided to give you a sampling of what I have stored and keep adding more as I go.  For the latest letters to DITC, check here.
Thank you SO much for addressing these issues on a Web page. This stuff IS real and it IS infectious......   I'm glad that you had the patience to put a page on the Net about it!

God Bless You!
M.B.

DITC,

I think that you have done a great thing with your web site on the Brownsville Revival..... I want to commend you.

Also, I wanted to tell you that more deception than just the Brownsville Assembly revival is occurring in Pensacola.  You see, I am the product of a 10 year struggle with Pentecostalism from the UPC- perspective.  My mother attends the United Pentecostal Church (The Pentecostals of P...) in P....  I grew up in this faith, and dismissed it when I was 20.   When I cut my hair, started wearing pants, and other various "worldly" things, my mother disowned me.  Her own flesh and blood.  I was attending E... University at the time and making fantastic grades.  I wasn't involved with drugs or anything detrimental to my well-being.  I simply dismissed the Pentecostal faith in search of what was really out there.

I don't have a whole lot of time now, but can send you a more detailed story as to the trauma I have experienced since my dismissal of the Pentecostal faith.  My life has truly suffered- and I reject any charismatic faith that tries to control the lives and thoughts of its believers.

Let me know what you think.  I am starting to write a book of my experience.    Thank you!

R.M.

I, too was a Catholic (born again, etc.) for many years.  What I realize now is that I was in denial for so long - trying to torture the scriptures into an unrecognizable form in order to accommodate so many teachings; the rest, I just took on 'faith' that those who told me those things were smarter, better educated, etc.  Finally, I could no longer handle the intellectual dishonesty involved:  either the Bible was the source of authority, or a man was.  The choice was obvious, but painful. Looking back, I can understand the deception, but cannot abide the schizophrenic state Catholicism creates in a person, assuming one can even discern what the true teaching about salvation is!  I recommend Dave Hunt's book The Woman Rides a Beast for ALL Catholics.  If after reading you are still convinced by all the pompous, holiness leading to bondage, then I would ask you to do some soul searching.  Just know there IS a cure for the inner turmoil caused by such a break between what your mind tells you and what your head has been convinced is true: it's called repentance and turning away,  looking for the TRUE source of freedom and peace that only the Living, Risen Lord ALONE can bring. Thanks for starting/continuing this very important discussion.  If it only gets one to think, and think HONESTLY in light of scripture and common sense, it will be worth it!  God Bless!!

E.B.

Dear DITC

Could you please subscribe me to your newsletter. God bless you and all your family. Thank you for your work in the discernment ministries and your help as well as others in helping to keep us informed of what you think is and is not of
God.

Thank you and God bless you
Love D.

Thanks for your web site on the "Third Wave", "Catholicism", and "Apostasy". You may also want to considering linking:

www.pro-gospel.org/article-menu.html   (Proclaiming the Gospel [to Catholics])
www.tyndale.edu/BOOKLETS/e-c.html   (Dr. Couch on Evan. & Catholics Together)

I just got back from a fantastic three-day conference with Dr. Tommy Ice, Dr. Mal Couch & Mike Gendron (the first two have one or more articles on your web site).  Your web site is more than timely!

In the love of the coming Lamb,
V.P.

I received your e-mail via E. & S. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.  A year ago I left my church (AOG) because of this counterfeit revival.  I had been attending there for fourteen years, and it was very hard to leave, as it had been a part of my life for so long.  I was the Children's Church Superintendent and loved teaching the children.  For two years I sat on the fence watching the church that I loved becoming more and more, a circus act.  I tried to accept the weird manifestations, listening to my Pastor telling us to get more, more, more.  I started to feel pretty lonely at the church services, refusing to go to the front to get filled with more of the "Spirit".  Friends started to ask why I wasn't going out to the front, I just told them I didn't feel I needed to.  At that time I still wasn't sure whether what was happening was of God, or not.  I felt like a second class Christian, a fraud, as I couldn't rejoice at what my friends where calling a great move of God.  How could my spirit rejoice in services where the Word of God was hardly preached, when a woman runs away from the Pastor, on all fours, shouting no more, no more, and the pastor chasing her saying give her more Lord, give her more. Where people scream as if demon possessed, while others are clucking, and flapping like chickens, people standing in trances, for hours, not hearing one word preached, etc.... As Christians, in my experience, we are to accepting of what our Pastors/Leaders say. I lesson I had to learn the hard way.  I forsook the warnings of God, that He placed in His Word and listened to man instead.  We were told, by the Pastor, to just accept things, but the Word of God says we must test the spirits. There are so many contradictions of God's Word in this counterfeit revival.  We as Christians have no excuse.  God has given us His Word and His Holy Spirit, it is up to us to put on the full armor of God. Just prior to leaving the church, friends of mine who had left their fellowship, because of the movement, showed my parents and my husband and I, a video which totally opened our eyes to this deception.  That was when we decided to get off the fence and do something about it.  We could not continue to live a lie. Our Pastor was in the process of leaving our church to Pastor another church,  so we decided to wait and speak to our New Pastor about what we felt. My parents got to speak to him first.  When dad told him that he didn't believe this move was from God and the reason why he felt like this, the Pastor become extremely angry. He started personalizing his attack, saying what did my father ever do for the kingdom of God (this was from a Pastor who had known dad less than two weeks).  (By the way dad was one of the people who established our local assembly, and who has led a lot of people to the Lord.) He than, after some more nasty remarks, told dad & mum to leave the church. To go to a "dead" church, as he put it, and not to make contact with anyone from our Assembly.  All this from a man who is suppose to nurture God's flock. This in itself shows me there is no balance when it comes to this movement. I had arrived at the tail end of all this, I could hear the shouting as I got out of my car.  The Pastor's wife was coming out of the door, and I wondered what was going on.  As the Pastor come out the door he saw me and come up to me and warned me not to listen to my father, as my father would lead me astray, he then walked off to his car. Mum and dad never returned to the church, they started attending a Spirit filled Baptist church. Because my husband who was away at the time, asked me to stay till he came back, I stayed on another two weeks, than rang my husband saying that I could not stay till he got back as thing were just to far gone. The sermons preached were just brainwashing.  We were told not to watch or read anything that was against the Revival.  We were told that God was cleaning out the church of people who had the "Goliath" spirit in them.  We were told that even the people sitting next to us could be the enemy.  That even the sweet lady who you've known for years and who's been in ministry and everyone likes her. She could be an enemy of God.  This type of brainwashing went on for the time I was there, and I know that this has continued since I have left the church. We now attend the same church as my parents attend.  The pastor there is against this counterfeit revival.  Some of our brothers and sisters in Christ have also left the church.  We are still witnessing to some in our old Assembly.  Last month another family we have been feeding information to, left this counterfeit revival. Praise God. So while the door is still open we will continue to feed information to people deceived.  If there is a possibility of plucking even one more person, out of this deception it will be worth it.

Yours in Christ
P.W.

Hello from the UK, surfed in via a link from Cross & Word. Myself & my wife left a charismatic fellowship when Toronto hit. We have had a steep learning curve since then . Will write more if get the chance.

Keep up the good work,
God bless
T. & S. G.

Dear Brother in Christ,

As I was browsing the internet looking for information on Robert Tilton, I came upon your site. There is a man in Boise Idaho that used to be the Music Minister at Tilton's church. His name is Mike Trent and his church is the "Word of Life".  Most of his sermons and bible studies if not all are copies of Robert Tilton stuff.  To make a long story short, I lost my family to this Tilton Clone as they said that I was not a Christian. They also preached money and power.  It has been over 15 months since my wife left and almost a year since she has divorced me.  It is sad that these "super apostles" are doing the devil's work without even being aware.  Each day I continue to pray for my former wife that she will be set free from the bondage that she has allowed herself to get into because of the love of money.  Please join me in prayer that the Lord Jesus through his Holy Spirit will open the eyes of all these wounded sheep that are deceived through clever speech.

Love in Christ,
A believer named J.

Dear DITC,

Received your e-mail dated .... I understand that your articles come from several sources, and do not originate from "DITC". I had been reading the article "Misplaced Faith", by B. M. Rocine, and was interested in having background information about this author.  Education is a part of this background information.  If you do not have any information, I will look for another source. I am also concerned about the influence that the "third wave" is having on many Christians.  One of my sisters has been drawn into this, but she does not respond to Biblical arguments, she relies upon her feelings. As Christians, rather than relying upon the words of men, we should check out everything with the Bible, as did the Bereans with Paul (Acts 17:11).

In Christ,
G. E. S.

Hi DITC

I was inspired by your web site for DITC. You may be interested in having a look at mine, as the story contained therein is an example of my silent ministry through my music. I could not have done this without Him.

Regards
J. B.

DITC,

Thank you for the information on the KCM.  I saw it on the internet and was encouraged that it was all information and not slander.  Some ministries out a personal twist to their message, but you kept it objective.  I highly respect that as it keeps it profession without an ax to grind. It was a confirmation of what I crawled out of 2 years ago.  I can truly say "I was lost but now am found, was blind but NOW I see."

Thanks again and may God bless the works of your ministry.

M.F.

Dear DITC

Thank you for sending me issues of Deception in the Church Newsletter. I appreciate it.

B.

Hello! I wonder if it's possible to be on  your e-mail list. Thank you for good information on the web. I'm glad for all information I can get.

Thank You and greetings in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
from K. A., Sweden.

DITC, while I get a great deal of wonderful info from your web site page, I wondered if you are also putting out a "snail mail" newsletter.  If so, may I subscribe to it?  If there is a fee, please tell me.

B. W.

DITC,

I stumbled upon your web sight through another family member's bookmark.  I was very impressed and so grateful that there are others who feel the same way as I do regarding scripture, the state of the church, and the holy spirit.  I feel so alone sometimes, battling against so much false doctrine and foolishness!  I came out of a well known church that is now steeped in the doctrines of the "Toronto Blessing".  I left long before this happened, but could see spiritual disaster already brewing when I left 10 years ago.

DITC has the ONLY doctrinal statement I have ever seen that is not just human apologetics but all scripture.  That impressed me the most!

I'd just like to offer a word of encouragement and thanks and let you know I will pray for you.

Love in Jesus,
L. M.

Dear DITC,

I was searching the internet for information about a "separate" baptism called the baptism of fire....this is supposedly in addition to the baptism of repentance and the baptism of the Holy Spirit.  I came across your web page when I looked up a different gospel.  I will be sharing some of this information with other like minded  believers as those sold out to Brownsville are not interested.

I find it amazing the far reaching impact this false doctrine has had.  You are in Guam?  and I am in ....

Be lifted up in the name of Christ!
A. A.

I THANK YOU FOR AN INTERESTING SITE ON THE CURRENT TROUBLE IN THE CHURCH. BEING A DEACON IN A PENTECOSTAL CHURCH IN FLA. NOT TO FAR FROM BROWNSVILLE MY FIRST PRIORITY IS TO TEST ALL THINGS THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR INPUT IN A VERY HARD SEARCH FOR TRUTH.

S. K.

Dear DITC,

Keep it up.......keep me on your list..........and sometime, take a look at THE GREAT DREAM.

Psalm 35:27
Brother D.

Dear DITC,

Thank you so much for your very informative site.  I have been studying and searching for over 3 years now about this counterfeit revival. First, I live in A....  It is 30 miles out of S.... I have been saved for 18 years.   We have continually prayed for this area.  Pleading, asking, practically begging God for revival.  I have been to a Rodney Howard Browne meeting.  I have seen the laughing, experienced it myself.  Changed churches searching, ever searching for that brass ring.  I always seemed to be on the outside looking in. Never a part of the "new thing".  Thank God for that!  Since I signed on  to the internet, over a year ago, I have been steadily coming to the truth.  Or coming back to the truth.  Please don't think that people are not being touched or changed.  We are.  There are 5 families, including my own, that have left the institutional church and started to home church just to get back to the basics.  We want to know Jesus and what the word says.  Not some movement or experience.  We have all come out of charismatic churches in our area.  Most of us have been at the same churches over this 18 year period.  We were "raised" on Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, etc...  Now we just basically want to chill and decompress.  In July of 1997, there was a meeting held by the Kenneth Hagin Ministries at the S... F... Church in C....  I couldn't go, but my former Pastor did.  I watched the streaming videos from the Rhema web site.  I saw my Pastor and his wife receive "impartation" and be slain in the spirit.  Kenneth Hagin called it the "spirit of knowing and seeing".  (go figure?)  Over the internet!  How spooky is that?!  Kenneth Hagin said that he had a vision and the next great revival was to start there, in St.Louis, and move east.  That is where we live.  We were so excited.  Finally, God had decided to visit the midwest. (like He was never there, duh!)  But, when we began to question our Pastor about his crazy doctrines (not even coming close to the Word of God, some new revelation every service, flat out heresy), and his "I'm the senior Pastor I rule!" mentality, we were shunned.  Now with the help of your site, Hank Hannegraff, and others the scales are falling off.  Take it from a Midwesterner,  we are hungry.  Not for religion, but for Jesus.  We are going back to the book and studying. We do not want to be weighed and found wanting.  They can keep Toronto, Brownsville, and every other movement.  We want Jesus. Again thank you.  Pray for the Midwest.  There is a revival taking place but not the one Mr. Hagin expected.

B. T.

just would like to commend you and others, if any, on the marvelous  work you've done on this web site.  thanks for giving us access to the various articles.  thanks for contending for the truth and standing against apostasy.  feel free to visit my church's web site at:  ...

agape,
c c.

Dearest DITC:

Thank you so much for responding quickly. Can you please tell me what are some of the unfortunate consequences of these missions that went to your area?  I was involved in Vineyard in 85.  Got out and studied with Walter Martin (apologetics).  Many friends stayed and continue to suffer from the aftermath. I hope to use your information to lovingly reach them with the truth.  A dear friend of mine (former Wimber missionary) was deeply involved with Frisbee and Wimber.  I know that she experienced some disgruntledness with them...I hope that the information can explain some of the problems and help repair the hurt. Yet another friend stays in the Vineyard and is quite defensive-ascribes to the eliteism-and has such a twisted way of reading scripture, her whole life is upside down. For example, I tried to share "Christianity in Crisis" H. Hannegraff with her and there is a real close-mindedness with the usual "heresy hunter" attitude.

This is such a pain in my heart to see this. Meanwhile I am grateful for your articles and appreciate your courage and hard work.

May God keep you,
C. A.

I really enjoyed your page on Word-faith.  I have ten years of history within the word-faith movement and was ordained through Buddy Harrison (FCF).  I first left the church I was attending three years ago because it was manipulative and controlling, among other things.  But I did not see any error within it's teachings.  I began to attend an old time full gospel holiness church for two years until the church I had originally attended was brought down by greed and left 60 people wounded.  I went back to help in the healing process and could not believe the "heresy" I was now hearing.  I had been out long enough and exposed to the truth that the lie was obvious.  The pastor preached on Easter of 97'  "You don't have to repent in order to be saved...no where under the new covenant does it say that you have to repent in order to be saved, it says you must believe and confess to be saved."  That was my wife's last service there and I left shortly thereafter.  I spent much of the last year researching the doctrinal heresy.  Last week I got unto the net for the first time and have found many pages like yours that point out the same heresies i have seen.  Thank you for your boldness.  I am enclosing a paper I wrote which is not about the heresies, as much as about the greed.  Thought you may like to see it.  If you can use it to help anyone feel free.

d.c.

I am just new to the Internet and to this site.  This site seems to be a wonderful site for discernment and counter-cult ministry particularly about the deception present in the charismatic and neo-charismatic movement.  Many thanks for providing valuable information on this area. I was in need and looking for this kind of information since a long time.  May God bless you and use you much in the time to come to glorify only His holy name.

G.S.

Hi!
I got to this page from a link someone had at the RYM Ligonier Forum. It has been very helpful as I had been looking for info on Toronto and Brownsville.

I think it interesting that people from these places say everyone who questions them are mean-spirited critics. From your site and the links you provide, most are very polite and concerned that people not be deceived. It has been very enlightening. Keep up the good work encouraging people to go by God's word and to not be overly impressed with experience. And to watch what kind of experience they're getting!

I too find it hard to believe the Holy Spirit, who is holy, would cause people to act in such "unholy" ways!

Thanks again!

G.

God bless you for the work that you are doing for the glory of our Lord. My heart aches for those that are being led astray by the wolves. I have good Christian friends that listen to the teachings of Hinn and Parsley. Please pray for them that the Holy Spirit would show them the deception of these liars and deceivers. N.P.
9:36 AM, Tuesday Morning, Sunny & Windy Central California Morning

To my brothers and sisters in Christ, greetings!
May the grace of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ be with you all.

A friend of mine gave me the Deception In The Church Web site address and I am amazed what the Lord has led me to.  All the bizarre and demonic stuff on the Kundalini / Toronto Blessing just got confirmed  to me again, that is, God has shown me once more what a lie it is and how your web site materials reinforce what I have researched.  I have been researching this stuff for four years and many people think I am crazy and/or divisive.  I
would like to get as many books as possible as well as video and audio info...I'd like to put together an apologetics seminar for the Central Coast of California to warn and help people regarding this issue of So-called
"Blessing".

My heart breaks for so many people who have been literally 'damaged' and 'ruined' by the church endorsing this stuff.  It's all over and getting  worse.  Even yoga in the church is a booming thing now.  Last year I held a
seminar exposing the dangers of yoga and it's influence in the church and that afternoon, my wife was confronted and assaulted by a demon possessed women in a local park here.  Satan is not happy about us exposing his lies,
but we will continue to do so more fervently.  More importantly, our desire is to preach the everlasting gospel to the people here and show them practically that they have been led away from the Only true God-the Jesus of
the Holy Bible, and the Spirit of Truth.

Isn't it interesting how Paul said to the Corinthians in 2 Cor.11:4..."or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received...".  Sad and grievous for the Berean to comprehend how far this delusion has gone/come.

PLEASE HELP US!
How can I order the books and get ALL the materials on your web site?  Do you have an order form or a materials bank so I can purchase them.  Can I get all  the "Toronto Blessing" Articles together in a binder or ...how do I go about getting them.  Do I have your permission to download/print them.

Antii Huima's articles...does the author have a book or compilation that I can buy? The Kundalini comparison stuff is incredible and would be very useful.

Please let me know ASAP.  I'd like to get the seminar going ASAP.  I have waited too long and feel that I have grieved the Lord in my hesitation.

Sincerely, C. L.
Assistant Pastor
(A church in) San Luis Obispo

Little children, keep yourselves from idols.  1 John 5:21

Thank you for the incredible site. :)  I've been doing research on the "Third Wave" for several months and your site ties everything in together. I'm very impressed with the articles and links you have.  I will recommend this site to
friends.
L.
DITC,

What a joy to find your web site.  I have been sending copies of my letter to Watchman Fellowship to a lot of ministries across the country. I had a terrible experience at a local Vineyard church.  I took my complaint all the way to Todd Hunter in California.  To no avail. Abuses in the Vineyard church are devastating to people.  I have
met one woman already and know of several more from this one church in Birmingham, AL. Thank you for caring. I really did think I was the only one for the longest time.  I have become very interested in Apologetics over the last 3 years since my being "thrown-out" of the Vineyard and called evil names.  Lies were told about me
after I was gone.  It was horrible treatment from a "so called" pastor. And he is allowed to continue devouring the flock.

R. F. S.

I really like your web site. It has a lot of useful articles and helps. May I suggest a book that the Lord has used to get us (our family) out of the Charismatic movement which we were in for 10 years. As I was reading it, I was so convicted of the truth in it that I (the wife) could not go back to that church again. I read it to my husband and he
also agreed. The book is by John MacArthur and it's called Charismatic Chaos. Recently, I gave the book to a couple whose husband is an associate pastor in a Vineyard church and another couple whose husband is the deacon in the church we left. The former couple is seriously investigating the claims of the book and is seeing the error of the Charismatic movement. I haven't heard from the latter yet. It is an excellent book as it addresses these issues and more: Signs & Wonders; Speaking in Tongues; Health and Wealth Gospel; Charismatic Televangelism; Does God Still Speak Today? Well, that's all I wanted to say. Pray that God will use us to reach those who are in bondage to the thinking of the Charismatic teachings as we speak the truth in love to them. God bless you all.
In Christ, M.C.
I found your web site and am most grateful to see that the Lord has blessed you with much discernment.  I was amazed and pleased to find several topics, etc., that I have been working on as well. I am the pastor of a small mission church congregation here on a bayou in Louisiana.  You may find out more about us through our web pages.  I have been a missionary pastor (Southern Baptist) for over 25 years.  South Louisiana is culturally dominated by the Roman Catholic religion.  My wife and I are missionaries to Roman Catholics, and this mission-type church was established to bring the true Gospel of God's grace to the Roman Catholics and Episcopalians of our area. Our congregation publicly confronted one of the endorsers of the ECT on February 10, 1995.  For this, we have been locked out of our own building, our funds have been confiscated, and our ministry cut off from outside support.  All of this has been done to our people by other "Baptists" who do not live here!  In any event, we are blessed in a strange sort of way, yes?  Our church continues in the Lord's work, meeting in
homes for worship and Bible study. Since many of the things you post are useful to us in our ministry, I want to link your site to our web site.  Is this OK with you?   Thank you for being faithful in the Lord's work.
J. M.

"Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely... but the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defense of the gospel."
(Philippians 1:15-17)

Please include me in your listings for your newsletters. You have revealed so much to me from your web site and I would like to continue learning through you. Thank you for a wealth of information and may God bless your
ministry.
With thanks
S.
I don't know who you people are, or why you do what you do, but from the bottom of my heart, thank you for exposing the duplicity and manipulation in these people and organizations. I am one of many "victims" of these people, married to a woman who is a total believer in the power of the snake oil they sell. Is there no limit to the gullibility of people in this world?
C.A.
Thank you so much for having the courage to write about the things going on from within the church that are gravely affecting Christians. It seems whenever I turn on the tv and see evangelists preaching (especially on TBN), it is not the Word of God, it is "Send me a faith seed so God will give you lots of money and heal you of any disease.... and God doesn't want anyone to be poor... and give us 2000 dollars from your credit card even though you don't have it to give... etc." with bible verses thrown at the vulnerable viewer that have been so tortured and
so taken out of context, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. So anyway, I just wanted to encourage you and let you know you have a wonderful, and very helpful web site. Its so refreshing to see others who seek and love God for who He and what He has done for us rather than what we can get out of Him.
In Christ, M.
Hi. My name is R. and I attend an Assemblies of God church in .... In the past week I have been doing a lot of research on movements like word of faith, latter rain, revival movements, and I have become some what alarmed.  I have always considered my church very biblical and discerning. But as I have been doing research I am learning what a huge effect these movements, past and present, have had on my church.  I am 16 years old and involved
very much in our youth, and I have found out that, at least my youth pastor, endorses Brownsville as authentic and he was concerned when I bought a book called "Counterfeit Revival" and read it in front of him. That is when I learned that he approved of these movements and he he and another in leadership gave me the impression that I should not be worried about it. I told him that I was just reading it to gain discernment against things like the word-faith movement. At this point he points out that in some ways (maybe positive confession) he considers himself word-faith. I dropped the conversation at that because I had not done enough research to really say any more.  I really think that my pastor and others in my congregation are ignorant of how bad some of these teachings really are and I am very frightened because at this present time we are open to deception. Our senior pastor who is held to be a very respected and discerning man, is gone in Europe on his first vacation since he started his ministry and will not be back till the end of summer. He has left the other pastors in charge.  My biggest concern at this time is this: He has left our music pastor in charge of our evening services. He is a good hearted person, but has no real experience in the pulpit. I know for a fact that he does not have adequate discernment because when my brother mentioned the name of Benny Hinn to him, he said he is one of the "Good Ones." This music pastor is starting a series of sermons based strictly on a book called "Revival Glory" by Ruth Ward Heifler and I am very alarmed. I have heard that she supports the recent revival movements also.  Could you give me any information on this woman and her book. I plan on trying to research her but I have not come up with much yet except what was on your site. Do you think that her connection with these revival leaders is enough for me to approach my pastors about it? I am not sure what to do. If  I find out the worst about her what should I do?  I really respect my pastors and I am not sure how to handle all this. I would be so grateful for any information and
advice you can give me. Thank you so much.
R.
Folks,
I am so grateful for the stand you take. I have been on the "Way" since 1981 and in 1983 I read Florence Bulle's book "God wants you rich" and other enticing doctrines. Since then I have a real quest for "true-truth". R.
C. Sproul is one of my favorite authors along with Chuck Colson and many many others. My passion now, is to know God, to love Him and to enjoy Him forever............ Please keep me up to date on deception in the church.
I will do my best to stand behind, alongside and with you in fervent prayer.
Kind regards, D.
Dear DITC,

Thank God for giving you your commitment to the Word of God. Your website has been a lifeline for me since leaving a "laughing revival" infected church in 1996.  At the time I did not know what in the world was happening.  It would take hours to describe the horrible destruction caused in my life and the lives of other believers in that congregation who ate the poison fruit of that movement.  In fact, Matthew 7:16 (Ye shall know them by their fruits, do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?) was instrumental in helping me discern the fruits of the errors being taught there.  I had to take a good, hard look at my life, and honestly admit the fruit I was bearing was the exact opposite of "love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith...."  And not just me, either, the whole group, most of whom were wildly "praising God and laughing like maniacs, and falling down like bowling pins" had the same evil fruit in their lives....  Instead of being built up in love, gentleness, kindness, with bowels of mercy toward each other, speaking the TRUTH in LOVE,  there was more coldness, meanspiritedness, competition, clique-ishness, false doctrine, greed, gross sin, manipulation, etc. than I ever hope to encounter on the "outside world" of the unsaved.  The phony unity of accepting every doctrine (no matter how blatantly unscriptural) was rampant; but let one meek sheep timidly question that any doctrine did not seem to line up with God's Word, and that sheep would be branded a "Pharisee."   I could go on and on, but I won't.  I simply mention these things in case any reader might relate to similar experiences.  When I returned to the pure water of the unwrested WORD and the unfeigned LOVE of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, He saved me from depression, demon-oppression, discouragement and despair.  I can now truly say "The LORD is my Shepherd" and "SURELY goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life...."  The Good Shepherd knows how to deliver His sheep.  As for the false shepherds, read Ezekiel chapter 34, for the truth about the endtime shepherds who are abusing God's little flock.

Anyway, thank God for you, DITC.  We live in a time when "men will not endure sound doctrine" but will heap to themselves teachers who will say what their itching ears want to hear... (e.g. I can be healthy and wealthy, sacrifice nothing, be entertained, have my flesh pampered, suit myself and do it in a huge crowd of others just like me, which must mean it is of God, right?  I mean, with ALL these others, and all these rich, successful pastors, it must be the TRUTH, right?)  I believe our God is calling His people OUT of these false churches, and DITC can continue to be of great use, if you continue to speak the truth in love (you can't have one without the other, in God's view).  It is hard to stand alone against the floodtide of false teachings and demonic powers, but "we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us...."

Hebr:13:13:   Let us go forth therefore unto Him without the camp, bearing his reproach."  It is for God's people, His sheep that "know His voice" to follow HIM, no matter what the cost (family, friendships, church socialization, prestige, or whatever...).

Sorry if this was too long-winded but I truly wanted to offer you a word of encouragment.  Keep pressing toward the mark and know that there are some who desperately need to hear the truth right now.

The Lord grant you His peace,
R.

Hi. I have conversed through e-mail with your organization and have found your resources very helpful. If you want you may post this testimony and my e-mail address. Perhaps it will encourage those going through the same trials and help them realize that they are not alone:

My name is R. and I am 16 years old. I have been saved for almost a year now and have been attending an Assemblies of God church for most of this time. I got very involved in this church and other than school, and my own time with God, it was the biggest part of my life.

About two months ago my senior pastor left on a two month vacation and left the rest of the pastoral staff in charge. After our senior pastor left our music pastor anounced that he was to be teaching from a book about revival called, "Revival Glory" by Ruth ward Heflin. Ruth Ward Heflin is one of the leaders of the Brownsville revival. Since there was no head pastor in charge I knew I would have to be extra-discerning. I read this book and found out that it was thoroughly heretical and full of Gnosticism.

I had great respect for my leaders and was hoping that this was an isolated event. I did some more research and gave a presentation before our Bible College president. I showed him many quotes from the book. I told him that because of the fact that this book denies Christ's physical coming that it must be rejected. When I reached for my Bible to prove to him that Christ will come back in a physical coming he told me to stop, and I was told that I had a chip on my soldier. The meeting was cut short by him and not much was accomplished.

I started to do alot of research on Latter Rain theology after this because I was suspicious that this book was not an isolated event. I found out the worst. I learned that our music pastor was embracing the whole Latter Rain theology and the third wave movement. I also learned the effect of the Word/Faith movement upon our church. A guest pastor gave a false Word/Faith teaching on the atonement that was way off, and one of our youth leaders was using and recommending Paul Yonggi Cho's book, "The Fourth Dimension." The more research I did, the more frightening things I learned about my church.

I wrote a letter to another pastor laying out my concerns and asking him to read the book. This letter went unanswered.

During this two month period while I watched deception creep into my church, I felt very helpless. It seemed as if there was not much I could do. I stopped attending alot of the services and would sit alone reading the Bible outside the church while I was waiting for my mom and my brother and sister. Of course, I still considered this church my family, but I felt increasingly alienated from the them  as I heard them boasting about the coming revival, and extra-biblical teachings were becoming more common.

After attending one of the Sunday night services that was being led by this music pastor I witnessed what could only be called a pure Latter Rain service, and an attempt at man made revival on this pastor's part. At this point I realized the great danger that our church was in and how fast this could spread through the whole church. I had two choices: either watch these teachings go unchecked, or to speak out directly against it. To have held my peace would have been sin.

I wrote a 10 page paper about my concerns for the church and my reasons for being concerned. I laid out my concerns in a respectful and straight forward manner. On a Sunday morning I handed out this paper to most of the pastoral staff and a few in youth leadership. While handing out this paper in the church foyer I was approached by our music pastor and another pastor. I was commanded not to hand out this paper. I tried to politely communicate my reasons for doing this. But I was not allowed to speak and was labeled as: divisive, out-of-order, having a bad spirit, and having a bad attitude. I politely disagreed and went on my way.

A week later I found out that our senior pastor was back early. My youth pastor arranged a meeting with me after the 6:00 service that night. After the service I had a rather fruitful discussion with my youth pastor about my concerns and he seemed very open to discussion and learning more.

The real shocker came from our senior pastor. I have always deeply respected him and I was pretty sure that he would hear me out and see the error in what was going on. That night he already had told me before my discussion with my youth pastor that my problem was that I listen to Hank Hannegraff.(I listen to his radio program, but have not used him as a resource in my research. I know that alot of discerning chiristians are totally disregarded because they might listen to somenone that is controversial, especially Hanegraaff) During the discussion with my youth pastor my senior pastor sat down next to me and joined in the discussion. He told me that my research on the the Faith movement is garbage and is false. He became rather irritated when I pulled out a list of Word/Faith quotes and told him I could prove that the Faith movement is heretical and told him to read. In his anger he grabbed the quotes out of my hand and slammed them on the table out of my reach. He then began accussing me of having a rebellious spirit. Seeing that the conversation was degenerating and that he was becoming very angry, and I have heard testimonies of angry pastors getting physical, I reached for my binder and papers and was about to stand up and leave. He grabbed me and held me in place so that he could continue in his accusations. I did not become angry, but told him that he has no authority to physically handle me. I stood up, told him that I would no longer be attending his church, and left to call my mom to get a ride home. I told my brother to meet me in front of the church where I would be waiting in a few minutes.

What happened next was totally unwarranted and has upset me very much. This senior pastor approached my 15 year old brother who had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the concerns I had expressed and had NOTHING to do with any of this. This pastor told him that a mere 16 year old like I could not possibly know the Bible like him and that I was raising my hand against the Lord's anointed. He went on to criticize me and yelled at my brother threatening to make him leave the church, my brother's only place he has to go where he can see his friends and feel accepted. When I found my brother he was crying tears and was very upset. I could barely express in words how much of a low-blow this was, and how upset I am. I could care less if this pastor did harm to me, but he attacked my brother who had absolutely nothing to do with any of these things that happened. If someone would have told me two months ago that my pastors were capable of these type of things, I would have laughed and walked away. But now, people's true colors are shown.

I am writing this so that people will know that they are not alone in their stand for truth, and that they are not alone in their trials. It can be very hard to face the fact that someone you respect can be involved in something false, but NO ONE is above the test of God's word, and correction. As God's chosen people, we must learn to say with boldness:

"To the Law and to the Testimony. If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn."

Peace be with God's people.
R.D.

Thank you for the incredible site. :)  I've been doing reseearch on the "Third Wave" for several months and your site ties everything in together. I'm very impressed with the articles and links you have.  I will recommend this site to friends.
L.
I really like your website. It has a lot of useful articles and helps. May I suggest a book that the Lord has used to get us (our family) out of the Charismatic movement which we were in for 10 years. As I was reading it, I was so convicted of the truth in it that I (the wife) could not go back to that church again. I read it to my husband and he
also agreed. The book is by John MacArthur and it's called Charismatic Chaos. Recently, I gave the book to a couple whose husband is an associate pastor in a Vineyard church and another couple whose husband is the deacon in the church we left. The former couple is seriously investigating the claims of the book and is seeing the error of the Charismatic movement. I haven't heard from the latter yet. It is an excellent book as it addresses these issues and more: Signs & Wonders; Speaking in Tonques; Health and Wealth Gospel; Charismatic Televangelism; Does God Still Speak Today? Well, that's all I wanted to say. Pray that God will use us to reach those who are in bondage to the thinking of the Charismatic teachings as we speak the truth in love to them. God bless you all.
In Christ,
M.C.
Dear DITC:

I have been in the charismatic/Pentecostal experience for over 25 years, but feel that a lot of error has crept into the church -- especially some "apostolic" churches I recently visited that preach that we are God. I was saved by reading the Bible and got my initial doctrinal training from Campus Crusade for Christ, plus Bible and Baptist
churches, so I feel a good basis was laid.

I have asked God to show me exactly what errors I may have picked up, to give me the strength to renounce them, and to center me on the pure fundamentals of the faith -- alone. Right now, I feel a great shaking taking place in my life. I am scared, but also sense a great excitement because I know, ultimately, the truth will set me free.

I am a man of the Word, a believer in Christ's blood sacrifice and do not (any more) seek "experiences" to validate my Christianity, so I have nothing to fear from reading your material, even criticisms of "faith" teachers I have come to know and love. I want more than anything else to re-base my life on the pure, unadulterated basis of our salvation.

Pray that God will divest me of any error I have picked up along the way and place me squarely on the ground of revealed truth in His Word.

God bless,
J.C.

Greetings, wanted to drop a note saying what a great site you have. Keep standing against the apostasy. I know all those involved in writing these articles are going to rescue many people out before it is too late. I believe the Lord has shown me that the lines are drawn and getting wider to where they will be a chasm no one will be able to cross over to, they will be cemented in the strong delusion by their own choice. Isn't strange that the 80's the church's main concern was the cults.  In the 90's it has become the Church itself (at least some portions). ...
God bless.
M.O.
I have been browsing through your great site and I Thank God for letting me find it. Reading the e-mails you have received, I find that we are not alone in the experinces that we have gone through with these false leaders and
"pastors". My wife and I come from Baptists congregations in Guadalajara, but we were unsatisfied by the way that we were serving the Lord, just sitting in our pews, not really doing anything. A friend of my wife invited us to her church where the leader and his wife had just returned from Toronto and the movement was in full swing. We were taken aback by the so called "spirtual manifestations", but decided to stay and see what this was all about. You could say that we tried to take the good parts and examined everything else under the light of the Scriptures, which caused quite a bit of doubts, but the worshiping really lifted our spirits, so we stayed on for six months, after which we moved to Aguascalientes. On recomendation of this leader, we went to a church led by one of his disciples, and then our troubles really began! We thought that all these troubles were caused by our sins (That's what this disciple would tell us) or that we didn't let his helpers into our private life to check on us to see what was
wrong. We even went to a Benny Hinn Show in Mexico City!! Soon afterward, he started attacking us from the pulpit because we wouldn't knuckle under to his preachings (we didn't laugh, or fall down, or throw our shoes
while lying on the floor, etc.), so we left. People from this church would not talk to us because he said quite a lot of things about us. We finally found a church that preaches according to the Scriptures and examines everything according to it, Thank God for his Mercy! Well, to end this long letter, These so called "leaders" have a knack for
the show but they are really hurting a lot of people and soon there will be a reckoning to pay.

Thank you for your time and God Bless you all!!
Avantel
J.G.N.

I truly believe that God led me to your site.I had been out of church for a long time when a friend invited me to attend an AOG church with her. I had been watching TBN and trying to find my way back. All of the things you
mention were operating in this church...I had no experience with such things and had been a fairly lazy Christian so it was so easy to believe the Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, etc and etc. teachings especially after standing in church one night, having an unknown person simply touch my head lightly and being knocked down as if by a bolt of lightning...I remember thinking this had to be God...when I look back on it I realize that I would experience little warning bells going off, but rather than realize it was The Holy Spirit trying to show me the errors, I started thinking there was something wrong with me that I could not recieve the "word" I was being fed. After a year there, I finally realized that I was not hungry for "MORE OF GOD" as those in that Church put it, I was in fact starving to death spiritually. I found a good Bible teacher and am making progress in undoing the damage...having found your site, I am appalled at what I was in and I need to ask, since I participated in this stuff what do I need to do to make certain that I am welland truely rid of this?  Thank you
D.H.
Dear brothers in Jesus Christ, Shalom

The peace of the Lord be with you always. This letter is for let you know our ministrie here in Puebla, Mexico. We would like to have folloship with you. My name is F.N.L. We are pastors here, I would like you visiting mi Website, and you can see our ministrie, we are full time ministries. The time is short, the end is near, Jesus Christ is coming soon ¡Maranatha¡  Please contac with us soon, We are working alone, and we have some churches here in Mexico. Check our job, thank you.
Sincerity
In Jesus
Pastor F. and C. N.

Hi DITC,
I just took a look at your new site - terrific. Really excellent. And i know it's being well used - when i checked this week's site logs for my site, your site was referring the second greatest number of hits, next to AltaVista! BTW, thanks for the links.
God bless
T.
Cross+Word
You have an EXCELLENT site here, I want to encourage you to continue your work here. It's so needed! I'm passing the web address on to my friends, concerned Christians who are grieving about the state of the church today. Thanks for all you're doing and God bless you richly. Keep telling the truth. God is pleased.

C. D.

I appreciate your site and your hard work very much! I pray God opens the eyes of these poor sheep who are following these decievers ... Thanks again!

A.S.

Your articles gave me strength not to accept the false doctrines and practices of the so called "Third Wave Preachers". Though their teachings and practices are now being done here in Saudi Arabia... It's nice to know that materials and Biblical guidelines are available from you.

Please include me in your e-mailing lists.

God Bless,
B.B.

Hello,

I love your web site, it is teaching me so much ...

Thanks,
M.M.

... In a world where many people in the church will fall for just about anything, I am looking at some of the things that "we" have fallen for... Faith movement, holy laughter, esp. I was at one service in my area where a worship band was to come and minister.  They came and there music was really good.  Then, when it came time for the Word to be preached (By the lead singer), they were too "drunk".  The teacher almost fell down another
musician was trying to operate the overheads for the message and he couldn't do it.  The other musician was in the 1st row of pews laughing and rolling on the floor.  They were calling their CD's "drinking music" and equating the Holy Spirit to margarita's and Long Island Tea's, etc I heard that they finally got to the message and it was good, but by then, I had left.  It struck me as so irreverent I could no longer sit there.

M.N.

I was so pleased to see a site like this on the web. My friend and I were researching a certain movement in the Charismatic movement that has us concerned...anyhow...I just wanted to say thank you and tell you in response
the emails that I read on your site that were negative that God is not afraid of our questions, neither does he expect us to believe without hard evidence...Jesus reappeared to his disciples for that very reason....so thank you for standing up and questioning.
Sincerely,
H.H.
Hi,

I was so pleased to find your web site while looking for articles by Albert James Dager as I'm studying up on the Manifest Sons of God and related abberations of the Gospel. I will be back for more ...

In Christ,
L.E.

I've found your web site and have been immensely satisfied by its contents. Would you direct me to, or give me more info on information concerning E.W. Kenyon. Also Ruth Kenyon Houseworth (Daughter) and the interview in 1982.  I want to know EVERYTHING about this deception. Thank you.

Yours for ChristDear friend,
Rev. T.J.D.

Thank you ... from a believer in India

Thank you for your reply and advice.I really appreciate that you took time to reply to my mail ... May God bless you and the ministry you are doing.I will visit your website periodically for more information.

Regards
J.G.

... Thanks for your website people are looking for all these signs and wonders and different techniques. We are surely in the last days.

Looking Up In Christ,
K.

Dear DITC,

I was going to a church that had this counterfiet revival.  When I first saw it happen I had a check in my spirit.  I thought it was really strange.  At the time I had just gotten saved, and didn't know a lot about the scriptures.  Although I felt it wasn't right I thought they knew what they were doing.  I really wanted to be apart of it because I wanted to be closer to God and do His will.  But after awhile I thought "maybe I'm not really saved," because I wouldn't fall down.  (Unless I did it myself, which I have repented from).  That is really scary in a church if you feel there is something wrong with you because you don't fall.  Sad to say, but if they don't repent, and change their teachings they will be held accountible.

IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE READING THIS THAT AGREE'S WITH THE REVIVIAL, PLEASE READ THIS NEXT LINE.  Can you honestly say you think this is of God?  I think you are just like me, and feel if you don't fall people will talk about you. Please just ask God to forgive you, and move on to more important things like the bible, and seeing souls saved.  I am not judging you, but I have been there and I know how you really feel inside.  Since I left the church I started going to a church ... that really teaches the word of God like it is.  I sometimes feel like I did when I was a new christian.  I just cant get enough of the Word of God.  I just want to LEARN more and more. It used to be when I would come home from church, I would be irritable and nervous.  Now I am TRUELY REFRESHED!  There is nothing like the Word of God. Seeing souls saved is TRUE REVIVAL!  By the way, this website is awsome. Thanks for putting it on.  I will pray for your ministry.  God Bless.

M.H.

DEAR DITC,

I LEFT MY HOME CHURCH OF 25 YEARS ONE YEAR AGO BECAUSE OF OUR NEW PASTOR'S MOVE DEEPER & DEEPER INTO THE WAGNER/DEERE/JOYNER TEACHINGS. ED SILVOSO HAS BEEN TO THE CHURCH TWICE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS WITH HIS CONFERENCE ALONG WITH GEORGE OTIS, JR. & OTHERS.  MANY HAVE LEFT THIS CHURCH (+600), AND MANY HAVE COME IN FOR THE SIGNS & WONDERS, CREATING GREAT DIVISION IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.  THE PASTOR IS CALLING A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE QUESTION "WHAT'S SO WRONG WITH ED SILVOSO?" ... COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS & OVERVIEW ON THIS?  I HAVE SEARCHED YOUR SITE & FOUND SOME HELPFUL INFORMATION, BUT WOULD APPRECIATE MORE SPECIFICS IF YOU CAN SUPPLY THEM.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR WEBSITE!

IN CHRIST,
D.J.

Thanks for your site! I found reading the emails from other believers very inspirational my story reads much like them I was saved in RHEMA, Johannesburg south Africa about 13 years ago and innocently entered into the deception, with Toronto and Brownsville and the visits by Howard Browne. During this time I started to question what I really believed and it lead me back to the word.

Its seem so strange that the bible is full of warnings about deception yet no one wants to listen to truth, everyone is after a word or an experience. My new church is currently has two guest ministers (Jacob Prasch & Bill Randles) it has been refreshing to hear these men and the truth that they bring. I pray that many of my old friends would listen to them but as soon as deception is pointed out they say "they are too critical and judgmental". My mother in law thinks I have joined a cult and leading her daughter astray.

Its very hard to explain to people who do want to hear, yet they will put with all the lies of the money preachers etc. Please can you put me on you mailing list.

Yours in Christ
P.H.
South Africa

Thanks for the e-mail explaining your stand. I never doubted for a minute that you are not dealing with people like ... in scriptural ways. Your web site attests to that, your willingness to publish other peoples work like Tricia Tillin and Paw Creek minstries attest to that and your willingness to open yourself up for that kind of abuse as people like ... dish out - proves to me your care for those who still seek in this ever increasing division of spirit and soul. May the Lord bless you with wisdom, courage and spiritual understanding in all situations that arise, ever discerning the sheep from the wolves is my prayer for you and all in like ministry.

U.

Hello,

My name is T.Y. and I have visited your webite deceptioninthechurch.com/  I had no idea about some things that have been said and the beliefs of some of our Countries foremost evangelist and teachers. Your site is informative and helpful to me, as I stick with the word of God and am concerned about christians being led astray into "another gospel" and doctrines that are unbiblical. Thank you once again for informing christians of this.

Blessings in the name of Jesus,
T.Y.

Hi DITC,

This is the first time I'm writing to you after browsing your great site for almost a year now ... I do want to finally (!) complement you on your site.  I have checked it daily for almost a year now and have found it very helpful and enlightening.   I teach an adult Bible class at a Baptist church in ... Texas.  When approaching the topic in my class I have been very surprised that 99% of the members have not even heard of Hagan, Copeland or Cho.  This is great on the one hand - "being innocent as doves", but I still like to "innoculate" people with a heads-up on the potential dangers.  I usually wait until the topic is appropriate, i.e. when studying the gifts of the Spirit, or Christian fiances, etc. at which time I can bring in potential doctrinal errors that are in the Church today.  Unfortunately I think some teachers have become unbalanced and "shrill", letting their attacks against this great deception consume them.  I think it would be a big mistake for the average Bible teacher to constantly week after week dwell on the subject.  In a corporate Church setting I believe in a positive approach, i.e. consistently teaching solid doctrine
and noting bad doctrine as appropriate.  When certain members seem to be supporting a doctrinal error I refute (hopefully tactfully!) the error in class (since a public misstatement requires a public rebuke) but then I try to meet with the individual one on one to better discern where they are coming from and to see if we can seach the Scriptures together.

Anyway, I consider your site very balanced and again want to thank you for your efforts.

Sincerely,
J.H.

Hello Brothers and Sisters,

I just want to thank you for your dedication to our Lord--I am very encouraged by all the material that you present on the "Third Wave." I have learned much from the DITC website. Unfortunately, the church I attend has been
infiltrated by Toronto Blessing. There was a small split and the followers of the TB will be starting there own church. I was able to print some of the articles on website and distribute them to warn my pastors about the dangers of this so called blessing. I would like to be added to your mailing list for the newsletter. Thank
you and may our gracious God continue to bless your ministry!!

Your Brother in Christ,
W.S. <><

PRAISE THE LORD MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS,

THE LORD HAS BLESS ME TO OPEN THE CHURCH HERE IN ... TEXAS AND I NEED THE PRAYERS OF THE SAINTS, MY HEART IS BROKEN BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAME IN AND BEGAIN SPEAKING THUS SAITH THE LORD AND IN THE PROCESS IT SEPRATED THE CHURCH IT CAUSE US TO HAVE TO MOVE FROM WHERE WE WERE;THE LORD HAS BLESS US WITH ANOTHER TEMP.PLACE TO HAVE SERVICE STARTING MARCH 1,2000.THE LORD HAS SPOKE TO US FOR US TO REBUILD, MY HUSBAND AND MY CHILDREN, I HAVE TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBLITY ON MYSELF AS A LEADER.PLEASE LET MY FELLOW MINISTERS KNOW THAT IT CAN HAPPEN.,WE ARE ONLY 6 MOS.OLD I DONT KNOW ALL OF GOD'S PLAN FAR MY LIFE BUT I AM LEARNING MORE AND MORE HOW TO TRUST HIM. PLEASE BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR DECEPTION IN OUR CHURCHES TO GROW WORSE AND WORSE AS THE TIME GOES ON.

PASTOR; B.H.

DITC...
Excellent!  Thanks!  (Dear Saint, Don't believe what they say! Rebuttal to the Believer's Voice Of Victory "Q&A" Section, 10/99 by Sandy Simpson, 1999)

L.H.

I enjoy your website and your doctrinal and spiritual insight.  God bless you!!! ...

T.

Please check into (more) penacostal revivial ministries.  My ex pastor went to this minster school. Now he out to round up ALL the hurt sheep he ever had bring em back to corral them up under his control. And PLEASE Pray for Me and My Household. I used to be cought up in penacostalism, it took me two year to get out of it and two more years to recover from the Stuff. Now they want me back. This church is like the "Hotel California" You can check out anytime you like But you can never leave!

Signed Bro M.M.

Dear DITC,

We couldn't agree more with you on the great deception.  I am currently working on Cell Churches, the Hegelian dialectic, accountability, shepherding movements, etc and your site is very helpful ...

Sincerely,
D.M.

Dear DITC

Thank you so very much for the articles in your magazine. In volume 4 Issue 4 you made mention of a video "The many faces of Benny Hinn" & "Benny Hinn - Possessed by Devils" are we able to buy these thru your ministry?

In Christ
M.G.
Australia

Greetings in the name of Jesus!

I have been coming to this site for almost a year now and has been an eye opening year for me.  I have been able to read, study and then test all that have learned.  As a result, the blinds have come off and I can truly see all that is happening around me.  It has brought me freedom and then grief on the other end.  Grief because so many people I know are swallowing this deception that is happening and will continue until Jesus returns for the true believers have remained faithful to Him ... Thanks for this site. I pray it will be successful and be fruitful.

D.R.

Dear DITC Webmaster,

I am sorry to bother you again.  I am reading through all of your articles--my husband and I are in a church that
has bought wholesale into several of these movements--The Toronto Un-Blessing (heh,heh), The Third Wave, Word of Faith--WE ARE IN A CULT!!!

Both of us are born again believers in Jesus Christ, from a non-Charismatic background...long story how we got
sucked into this thing.  We knew better...our daughter had just been diagnosed Schizophrenic...we were shattered,
vulnerable...we've been in it for two years.

I see the deception, but my husband doesn't.  However, he has agreed to read your articles, if I print them out ...

Thanks for taking the stand you have.

B.R.

Hello,

Great webpage! ...

By the way, we live in ... FL and the Toronto Blessing was transported to the Tabernacle (Jamie Buckingham's Church).  We do not attend it, but attended some of the meetings.  OH MY!!!

Just in case there are claims from the proponents of the Toronto Blessing of great revival, thousands receiving Christ here, nothing of the sort has happened.  The nonChristian community remains untouched by it.  It sucked in
a lot of church goers, that's all.

Thanks for your GREAT work exposing this stuff.
B.R.

Dear Sir

This is a great website and a welcome breath of spiritual life at the point when I was beginning to think that the church at large had finally lost its head and its heart, and the testomony of Jesus had largely been lost. It's good and reassuring to know that bible-loving Christians are alive and well now we have entered in the twenty-first century.

Very illuminating and thought-provoking articles. I especially liked Tricia Tillin's "Doctrines of Demons" series, which confirms much of what I have been thinking over the last 3 years since I left the church establishment. At least I know now where to go to get wholesome biblical teaching.

Keep up this life-changing and life-saving work.
AY

MAY GOD BLESS ALL WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS MINISTRY

E.A.

After reading some of the material on your site, and going to the bible about it, i can see that I definately made the right decision to leave K.T.

I was attending an evening certificate of their bible school, and after going though all the notes, and from memory about some of the things I remember the tutors talking about, i did the right thing.

I need to find a safe church here in London.

I went to one the other Sunday, and thought all was fine till they had a water baptism, straight after which a "marking with the cross" ceremony (I thought I was back in a catholic church!), followed by a "babtism in the holy spirit", at which point I walked out.

Do you have any lists of churches over here that I can look at?

I'll obviously check them against the bible anyway, but it might be good if you do know of any.

Thanks
J.

Dear DITC,

I have really enjoyed your site, I look at your site on a daily basis. I am in a crash course I feel in learning everything I can about the false teachings and revivals that are going on.

We are not immune even where we live, Alaska. We are getting everything and its really thick. Just last night at the one and only charmastic church in town (by the way we left it several months ago) they sponsored Jessie Duplantis. I saw and heard him preach a few years ago at the same church and our gut feelings about him were not good. My question is this....Do you have any info on him that we can read or research ourselves? The church by the way was standing room only and its the second largest church in town. Many friends went and loved him, it personally felt like vomiting.

Another person I have great concern about is Tommy Tenney who wrote the book "The God Chasers," what do you know about him? We felt very uneasy with this guy when the pastor for over 5 weeks pushed his book to the point he bought the over hundred books, it was a required reading. The pastor has totally shifted gears, he's said that this one book had totally changed his life and he wanted everyone to read it. Well, I just found out the pastor has invited him up in July, oh how we are grieved. We need some concrete evidence on this guy. Can you help?

One last question, do you know what this kind of healing is called. Where for instance you fell down and hurt your wrist. Well, you don't know if its sprained or broken. So another person would take your wrist and Speak the wrist,"Wrist sprained?'' And if you could release your fingers between theirs it wasn't broken. Then you would speak,"Wrist broken" and your fingers would not be released from theirs. This kind of healing was said, that the spoken word is very powerful. Again my gut instinct is to say this is new age healing practices but I dont know want it is called. Have you heard of this type of healing before?

Sorry I got long-winded here. I truly appreciate you and your valuable resources. Thank you for doing this and keep up the good work, you are touching a lot of people with your talents here. Gob bless you,

M.G.

Thank you sooooo much!

D.

Just a note to let you know I have browsed your site.  Also, I like, appreciate your attitude.

W.J.

Thank you, I don't know who you are but thank you.

I left the church for a while over some very hurtful things, when I repented I went back (years later)to be reconsiled it seemed everything was changing...I couldn't put my finger on it but as time went on it seemed I
was out of sync.

My home group leader was doing a hocus pocus with the scriptures, open the book and wherever it falls open is thus saith the Lord to you right now. (Before I got saved I used to divine things the same way)

I didn't trust Benny Hinn, and others, then the pastor confessed to sin and stepped down, the man taking His place, from Rhema, a Word of Faith guy...

We are out of there, and now I'm distributing truth as the Lord directs, any info on Biblomancy would be helpful.  Until He comes Shalom.

B.

Dear DITC,

Praise the Lord for your wonderful website, and the awesome work that you do! I could not even express what blessings and deliverance have come from finding and reading articles from the site. I have written to the discussion area before, and I thank you for responding personally through e-mail.

By the mercy and grace of God, and through the help of the website, and a fervent search and reading of scripture, I have come to completely renounce any involvement with the Charismatic Movement, including "private prayer
language". Hallelujah!!!!!  What revelation!

I must tell you that this is a complete miracle (maybe not according to Scriptural miracles, Ha!  But definitely to me!), because I was a full-blown Charismatic!

EVERY day, I am amazed at the mercy of God, because He pulled my husband and me from this deadly, poisonous, confusing, sticky, and alluring (to the naive and inexperienced) spiderweb called the Charismatic Movement.  As the Word says "He whom the Son sets free, is free indeed!"

Being on the outside now, I realize what evil masterplan the enemy has in all this. It looks so good, but is so bad. A way may seem right to a man, but in the end it leads to death. The promises made, the abuse for not "believing",
the brainwashing, the impressive "signs" made it virtually impossible to break free. But with God all things are possible.

Even now, our Lord having broken me free, I am told (whether face to face, or behind my back) that I am seriously confused, delusioned, not walking in the Word of God, a cancer, an immature believer, "out in the other camp" and the like!  Praise God! "For so persecuted they the prophets which were before you."

Having friends that are in the charismatic world, I want to be able to minister the truth to them as the Lord leads and permits. I am praying fervently for them, and already the Lord has delivered four different people from this deadly mess. Praise His Name!   We are not sure about one particular scripture, namely John 20: 22, when Jesus breathed on the disciples and said "Receive the Holy Spirit". Of course the Spirit was poured out on them in Acts 2, and that's where my dilemma is. I know there is a perfect explanation for this unique situation, but at this point I am not perceiving it. I know Charismatics will say that the situation in Acts 2 is the "subsequent" experience to salvation, because "the disciples already had received the Holy Spirit".  I know that their explanation is not true, but I have to have scriptural reasoning and evidence to be able to convince them that we are baptized in/by the Holy Spirit at conversion. They will use John 20:22 to contradict me.

Can you help? I so appreciate your wisdom and knowledge of the scripture, and believe that you are a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth. I realize we are all human, and may not know everything, but from my acquaintance with your writings, I discern the Lord's wisdom and insight in you.  I have been greatly blessed by your writings, especially "Letters to the 7 churches".

May God bless you in all your hard labor for Him. Whatever you have to go through, it is all worth it, for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

In Christ's love,
E.H.

enjoyed your website ...

K.

Dear DITC,

Just finished reading your truly excellent article on Copeland and Word-Faith.The mother of my daughter-in-law and a dear Christian sister recently died of cancer and yet there were those in the church (small segment) who literally tried to barrel their way into the room with the news that "she is healed." They gave her Charles Capps books.  All this was truly done in love and concern for her...but it was not truth.  All Word-Faith denies one of the most basic principles of true Christianity - that God is sovereign and not subject to us and our words but rather that we are subject to Him and His Word.  And that we can trust in Him - no matter what circumstances we find ourselves in - for He is the "lord of the hills and the lord of the valleys (OT)".   Thank you for the article.

B.W.

Hi!

I was just reading some of the email that you get and saw the typical negative responses (i.e. accusatory, lacking love, full of hate...). You state that you respond to these types of email and I was just wondering if you ever get a reply back from your responses to those who send such letters?

I was involved in a Pentecostal/Charismatic church for eight years before finally leaving due to the control of the pastor. Since my depature from charismatic/pentecostal circles (and, yes, I was accused of everything under the sun...e.g. deceived away by the devil, under the influence of seducing spirits...) I have been able to honestly revise a lot of the Charismatic teachings and found them at odds with Scripture.

God bless you for your diligent work.

Your brother in Christ,
B.S.

Thank you for your web site. It is sorely needed.  Scripture speaks of God sending the world a strong delusion in the last days, and for a while it was hard for me to see how the AntiChrist could deceive the entire world, however after seeing what is going on in Toronto and Florida, etc.  I guess it won't be to hard for the antichrist to come to power.  People that believe the Holy Spirit can make a person "lose control" and "bark", crawl around on all fours, howl, laugh uncontrollably, etc. are already deceived. The church in America needs to get back to Gods' standard, His Holy Word. Paul told the Corinthians to do all things decently and in order.  The filth that going on in Toronto is not of the Holy Spirit.  I for one would not want to be in Benny Hinn's, Copeland's, Parsley's shoes on judgement day. Keep up the good work.

Yours in Christ,
J.T.

I wrote you before and said that i love your web site. But i never said that my wife is into the revival thing (hook, line, and sinker). My wife and i use to go to this church that is into all the manifations that you see in brownville. but i always felt uneasy about the whole thing because i felt like i did not fit in, nor did i want to fit in,lol. My wife and i got into a big fight the last sunday we went together because there we an hour of praise and worship, 25 min of preaching and then a rodney howard browne thing hit the place for about 20 min. well its a long story but i go to my own church (aog) and the pastor there is into the word a lot and wants the rest of the church to be also. and my wife still goes to the other church. I feel alone in this matter because no one want to see my view. its refresing to read your web site What do you do when your wife is being blinded by this false teaching. she will not back down but i CAN NOT back down. will i have to go now but write me back if you can, bye

RKH

Good site!

Have recommended to my church newsletter at www.methodist.org.sg but we have a situation where some of the members are "influenced by charismatism" and sad to say abandoning reason in falling for the traps and snares by such authors / visiting preachers / speakers...

N.

Well.it wasn't easy to read your material, but very informative and helpful-thanx!:-) ...

InHim,
RGN

Hello.  I really loved your website, particularly the information on the Word-Faith movement.  A few months ago, I returned some cassette albums to the Kenneth Copeland Ministries.  The albums, the Blood Covenant and Receive your Inheritance were filled to the brim of the "Jesus died spiritually", "Jesus went to hell for 3 days" doctrines, and how Jesus stopped being God until he was reborn.  This is PURE Gnoticism. I also have been reading a book by John F. MacArthur, Jr. called "Charismatic Chaos" which also talks about the dangers of the Word-Faith movement.

But how do you tell someone who is caught up in this movement that it is tantamount to name-it-and-claim-it mysticism and witchcraft?  I know lots of Christians in the Word churches who would be highly offended.  What do I say to them?

Yours In Christ Jesus,
A.  :-)

Hi,

I appreciate your website information which I am yet to sit and thoroughly read and re-read.  I am a Kenyan studying in US and together with my husband have been terribly disturbed by some teachings on TBN. What is of even more concern to us is the ease with which certain 'teachers' seem to captivate and just obsess 'us' as Christians. Benny Hinn is scheduled for a crusade in Kenya, and I would appreciate any information other than what you have on the site to best prepare us to discuss some issues with our friends and relatives as we go home for Christmas. Could you also furnish me with more information about yourself and why you do what you do?

N.M.

Greetings in our beloved Lord Jesus Christ,

At first look there was great caution in viewing your site.  I have been looking for a site with the straight forward, strong TRUTH.  I can not say that I have "found" it, yet the information you supply is a lot.  I have not been able to even read a small amount as of it yet.  What little I have read seems to be right on.

There is where I still use caution, I have seen many sites that appear "right" with the truth at first.  Yet the more I read them the less they witness truth. I am a Spirit-filled Christian who has been most disillusioned by the
sensationalism and emotionalism that so many seem to think is truth.  I have been in "Four-square" fellowships, AOG, etc.  It is what finally lead me to home church for the same reason I home school.  The negative peer pressure in the Body of Christ.  To look at the numbers of sins tolerated within the church, the number of adultery, fornication, etc. are not that much smaller than that of the world.  Where is the righteousness we are to claim to the world?  Where is the light and truth we are to uphold to the unsaved?  We have become a stench in the nose of our enemies, they mock our unrighteousness and unfaithfulness and we are blind to it.  We perceive their mocking as against our God because we are blind to our own sin.  If judgement does come to this nation it will be because of the unholiness of the church and not that of the world.  For our God knows the world is sinful, it is the unclean church that brings judgement.

I look forward to learning more from your site and am praying I will not be disappointed.

His servant,
Rev. E.J.

I am thankful to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ that he has protected me from the deception that is prevelant in
the "church" today.  I have been blessed these past 20 years to have teachers and brothers and siters in the Lord that see how this deception is hurting not only the "Body of Christ" but our witness to the world. I am thankful that there are web sites that proclaim the truth and warn people of the dangers of a faith that is based on signs and wonders.

H.D.

Please add me to your newsletter list. my email is .... Thank you so much.  I read one of your newletters on the oneness tradition. I got caught up in it and am now returning to my home church.  Thank you for your healing pages.

T.L.

To whom it may concern,

I am so thrilled to finally have found you guys again. After you closed or moved from the old site, I was searching
frantically..but found ya again!! I pray for God's continual blessing upno this ministry, and hope that it flourishes for
another 2000 years. May God richly bless you all for your tireless efforts in sharing the REAL truth with millions of
surfers, regardless of the consequences. Now I have 2 simple questions:

1. How long will I have to wait for the newsletter?
2. How often is the site updated?

Again, rich blessings from Almighty God unto you all at DITC!!

B.L.

Loved it. Glad to see a site that actually takes a stand for what is RIGHT, and not just what is popular or commonly accepted within the "church". Ever thought about having a chat channel on IRC? I am an IRCop on a
christian server and could help ya out. You can even put a java chat client on your website. Keep in touch.

Take care and God bless!!
S.

Praise the Lord for this ministry!!!

I'm an ex-Word of Faith Movement "addict". For years all I did was eat, sleep, breathe Word of Faith stuff. Somehow I never felt fulfilled, plus there was always that subtle feeling of being inferior. Of just not getting it, of not having enough faith, of there being more. I followed every method and formula that was taught, but somehow never quite "got" it. Thank God, I didn't.

The Lord moved us out of a word of faith church a little over a year ago, and I started studying on my own. Through this studying I found that I could have a relationship with the Lord that is personal, instead of based on following formulas and methods. I learned that Faith is not a force, as I had been taught, but trust and belief and reliance upon My Heavenly Father, who reveals Himself through His Word. Shortly after we left the word of faith world, I almost got sucked into the Prophetic Movement, but the Lord started to pull me away from it, before I was too deeply involved. I also have been in services where people (including Mark and Janet Brazee, who on the video with Kenneth Hagin's "sermon" on being drunk in the "spirit" were the two people in the front row, who slithered out of their chairs simultaneously)were plastered to the floor, unable to utter anything that made sense, and everyone is laughing or screaming or shaking or running or drunk. I remember sitting there feeling very sober, and not involved, yet also sort of intoxicated. I didn't understand the contradicting feelings. I do now. The soberness was definitely the Lord. The intoxicating thing some other spirit. I can personally testify that this power is very strong and persuavive, especially when you're told it's the "Holy Ghost", and "just flow with it".  I didn't realize until 2 weeks ago, when the Lord led me to DITC, that I had been so deceived in all these areas, and that the "funny" feelings and reservations I had had, were not my lack of faith, but the Holy Spirit's warning signals!!! How naive I was!

It IS important to expose all error and heresy!! The Lord has me talking to all kinds of people to show them the truth of the scripture. I don't care if those people think I'm wrong or have lost it, I just can't bear the thought of them not knowing the truth. "Thy Word is truth", Jesus said. (Jn 17:17) We must snatch others from the fire.

I pray for God's grace and mercy upon your life! You are very much loved and appreciated, and I pray the insults of people don't tear you down. You are blessed, because You are being persecuted for our Lord's Name sake! That's an honor.

R.

Dear Brethren,

Thank you for your information regarding Benny Hinn.  My parents and I are at odds regarding this "ministry".  After I spent 6 hours making copies and reading the information all it did was confirm to me that I wasn't hearing
things when that Denver Crusade was aired (my father taped it and I watched its disturbing presentation).

That episode had confirmed that this man was not of God.  It was like a red flag. My parents are hooked onto this like glue.  They think God gave him a gift and he is the only one who was privileged to have it.  They won't hear
or read anything I have to say about it.

I went to one of those crusades down in NY and all I can tell you is that this so-called annointing felt like someone was hypnotizing me, as if someone was sucking my brain right out of my head.  The second time I went and "fell
under the spell" it knocked me on my butt and to this day I had no idea what it was.  I can testify to you that it was not of God.

Yet my parents, like many others, are uneducated, have language and vocabulary problems.  They misunderstand what is being said when the more sophisticated speakers speak.   Benny Hinn uses basic English and they feel
they understand it.  Unfortunately, there are many like my parents with language and understanding difficulties as well as their ability to make educated and discerning choices.

I would like it if you could inform me of any current "chats" regarding Benny Hinn and his movement.

One other thing,  I would like to see if the people who claim are healed and would like to see confirmed testimony from their doctors.  So far to this date I hear no news or reports of feedback regarding those who claimed to be
healed.   My parents and I would like to know why isn't the national media moving in to "witness" these so called healings and report back to the public its validity?

Thank you for your investigations.  I have been investigating this for myself for two years now and now have come to terms and it is conclusive that this movement can only bring ill to all its followers.

Sincerely yours,
B.J.

... Saturday, while asking Jesus to forgive me for my own personal heresy....the door bell rang and there stood a man witnessing from house to house.  We started talking about this very subject and come to find out he was a former student of REHMA, who is also searching out the scriptural truth also.

Talk about an answer to prayer.   They will be having a bible study this Weds. night.  I plan to go, but I will never, never, never take anyone's word for it anymore unless it is backed up by sound Biblical doctrine.

Last Monday night at my house of worship (This caused me to stand back and gasp in horror!) the ladies had poured a bottle of anointing oil on a table and proclaimed the presence of the Lord was in that piece of furniture!!!!! They were all swooning and it caused one to prophesy. (supposedly).  All of this has really gone too far and will continue to get out of hand.

Our church has allowed a group from Paul Yoggi Cho's (not spelled correctly) church to practice their services.  Our pastor has went to Osteen's conferences in Texas.  The list goes on and on.  The church, especially the
AOG is getting so entrenched in this cult.  Pray for me because my husband does not see it and anything I say cannot open his eyes.  He was raised in this church.  The adults are getting more and more out there.  It is going
to take God to help him see, until then, I am stuck there.  I want to be a submissive wife.

Thanks again
C.W.

Thanks for the reply and encouragement.  It's really true that prayer may be the only way to reach these people.  It's so sad.  And very sad to hear that it's also in Guam.  Keep up the good work.  May the Lord bless you for it.
Honolulu
Dear Bro. Sandy,
Thank you for your website! I look forward to reading "What's New" and taking your "Quizzes"...God richly bless you for ministering to His sheep in these last days.
E.K.
Well...I just wanted to say thank you....back in November I wrote about seeing Benny Hinn and being involved with someone who was...well...he was also involved with Rodney Howard Browne and the toronto blessing
movement.....It took a lot of prayer and pain to let go...  but back in March I DID IT!!!  I am recovering from the memories,....and praying for him....he called two weeks ago to tell me he was getting married to a girl who was a
new Christian....she has only know him for two months and does not know what she is getting in to......I pray the Holy Spirit opens her eyes before it is too late.........:(   I have since read extensively about the Faith Movement
teachers and others who frequent TBN....I am now more knowlegeable and grateful for this experience  so that I can now witness to others about the dangers of such a subtle twisting of the truth....It frightens me to know that even an educated person who loves the Lord can be decieved.    Keep up Gods work and thanks again....God bless! :)
P.
Dear Sandy Simpson,
Just a note to thank you for the 'Benny' update.  I encourage you to keep posting about these wolves because when you send me that email, I forward it to friends and aquaintances on my email list.  I have lost more friends that way!  Because they don't really want to offend me, they don't block me from sending it to them. I just forwarded this recent one to a Baptist Missionary who just 'loves and respects'  Benny because she went to one of his crusades and that wolf said it wasn't him doing all this, it was the Lord.  Since he gave the Lord credit, that convinced her he must be a genuine man of God!  Mind boggling!!!  So many are now asleep at the switch.  May God Bless you and your Ministry even more - Thank you
D.S. in Ont. Canada. (near Toronto) I never go near that bunch at the Airport.
Thank you for STANDING FOR THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a co-moderator and co-writer (prophetic news stuff) and we regularily have to fight those that support the doctrine of Hinn, Copeland and others.  Your site helps give us some bullets of truth to use in the face of such demonic doctrine (not all of it but some sure is).

Thank you again.
A.

I want to thank you for the prompt response.  You have been more than helpful to us.  I hope that the information will help get some of the more gullible ones out of harm's way.  They just don't seem to listen to good council even
when they know something is wrong.

We just returned from a convention in Northern Illinois where a "Signs and Wonders Prophet" was breaking bread with the congregation to receive "gold teeth.".  Needless to say we interrupted the service and then walked out. It's everywhere but we are going to do our best to reveal as much of it as we can to whoever will hear us.

Thank you again
J. & P. J.  In Jesus Name

Dear fellow saints at DITC,

(I am sending you an article that was sent) to me by an acquaintance, who likes what's going on at the Brownsville "revival". I thought it might be of interest to you, although you already may have received it through a different source. Reading it made me ill, and I grieve for people who are so deceived to believe this is God at work. Their intents, on the surface, seem so noble and godly, as they say they are seeking God, but they don't realize they are
elevating themselves instead. Amazing also is the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, instead of on Christ and His saving grace. Let us not stop praying for these folks. We are thankful for sites like yours, who dare to speak the truth, and we're contending in the faith with you. You are a blessing, and we pray for you. May God's grace and perseverance work abundantly in and through your lives, as you seek to serve only Him.

Blessings to you. In Christ's love,
E.H. (Acts 17:11)

Greetings in Christ Jesus,

I read you page, and wanted to share something with you.  I was saved nearly three years ago.  Before this time, I was a practicing witch, and goddess worshiper.  Since being saved, I have been drawn to the Revival movements and I have had a very uneasy feeling about the whole thing.  Something just touched that part of me that discernment told me was the same spirit source I used to call on when drawing down the goddess.  I have only been to two services where this "movement of God" was present, and both times, rather than feeling the Holy Spirit, I was uneasy and could not let go and worship like everyone else was.  Instead I sat as an outside observer, feeling like something was not right.

After reading your site, I know what it is!  That discernment that said the spirit was the same as I used to call on in paganism was right.  I just know it, and I know it by one thing, "the river."

The river is a major imagery in paganism, and goddess worship.   The goddess is the goddess of the river.  Doesn't even Revelation say that the great whore will rise out of the river?  While I was reading your page, an old
pagan chant that I used to sing when raising a cone of power came upon me "The river is flowing, flowing and going the river is flowing, flowing to the sea."  This was a chant we used to raise the cone of power (being filled with spirits, charged, etc.).  We would chant this chant over and over as a mantra, leading into other chants such as "we all come from the goddess and to her we shall return, like a river returns to the sea."  River imagery was
EVERYWHERE!

What you are seeing at Brownsville and Toronto and other churches across the globe (many in my county here in Ga.) is a raising of a cone of power using a mantra.  In pagan circles, spirits of the North, South, East and West are called upon.  We called upon the elements of earth, air, water and fire (notice how these elements are present in many of these "revivals" as well?). We chanted and danced to reach a trance like state where we would be
empowered from the gods and goddesses.

This is what is going on in the "revivals."  The names are different, but the elements are the same.  Any pagan will tell you that the "lord and lady" are called many names, but they are all the same.  Some pagans call their lord
Jesus and their goddess Mary, but they are not worshiping Our Jesus, who is Savior and Lord, but a false Jesus.

The connections are too similar to be coincidental.  THIS is why I have been both drawn to this, and repelled by this at once.  Satan knows my weakness, but God has given me the gift of discernment.

I was once at a church that was in "revival"  I went up front to have hands laid upon me, and a clear voice told me "Do not let them lay hands on you." And then I felt a clear indication that I was to move.  I did, and right as I
did, three women fell where I had been standing.  I left that church never to return.

The other time I felt this way, was at a Joyce Meyer Conference in Atlanta at the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit (yes Earl Paulk's church).  Joyce was supposed to have two teaching sessions that day, but when I arrived at noon,
Joyce had not even begun to preach.  People were falling out all over the place.  Everytime Joyce would pickup her Bible to start the lesson, she would start laughing, and speaking in tongues, and then she would act like she was swimming across the platform.  Everyone was hooping and hollering, and people were falling out.  I am a Spirit-filled believer, but I felt NOTHING.  I tried to get with it, and couldn't.  When Joyce did finally preach that
afternoon, it was dead, and far from the anointed preaching we had been promised, but everyone else in the place seemed mesmerized!  ...

Anyway, just wanted to share this, and say God Bless you for your ministry.

In Christ,
D. H. V.

Dear Sandy,

I greet you from South Africa and appreciate your fine work. Recently, I was sent a report you had done on that evil man, Benny Hinn. "Jesus Christ Slated To Star With Benny Hinn ... IN PERSON! by Sandy Simpson, 4/2/00". Also enclosed was an e-mail from "H", suggesting a search into Kim Clement. To this end I can supply "invaluable" background information on his evil ministry and associates. I am a follower of Christ, and preaching His Gospel is my mission. I am prepared to supply you with my background details, should you so desire.

Briefly, I am now staying in South Africa and also was during the Kim Clement years and my early walk with the Lord. I got to know him and his wife, Jayne, on a very intimate basis and was introduced to them by her parents, Fred and Nellie Roberts. I was deeply involved in Business transactions with the whole family.

Ironically, it was Kim who led me to the Lord. However, I received the "empty cross" Jesus as my Lord and Saviour, not the fraud Kim was selling.

Please fell free to write me if you feel my information can assist you.

In His Service,
B.R.

Browsed your web site this is beauty personafied.  Please keep up the good work and truth love in JESUS
to all.   W.A.
Dear Fellow Christians:
Thank you for your tremendous work. I live in Malta in the Mediterranean, and the church is very young here but invariably the third wave has arrived - and that through some of my best friends. I have been unsuccessful in my trying to show them error, but without your web site I would not have been so well equipped in my argument.
Now the Alpha course has arrived at the Anglican church where my mother attends, and I would be very grateful if you could give some more background information as to its errors in detail. I hear it is very ecumenical and originates from third wave doctrine. But beyond that I am not sure.
Thank you again. May God richly bless all of you.
In His name,
B.P.
Thank you for your website. The articles have helped me tremendously. In Singapore where I live, there are many vibrant churches. Unfortunately there are also excesses. Some of the false teachings permeate across all
denominations including my church. The truths sated in your website has helped me check and test many of these false teachings and new fads.
Regards,
P.C.
Dear Sir,

I just recently stumbled across your web site and am in agreement with what I have seen thus far.  I am writing to ask if you have heard Paul Crouch's statement that "in similar ways Jesus Christ was a communist"? (In reference to his recent visits with the communist Chinese) What is your input? Personally I was shocked - this is a whole new level.  What an easy set up for the "church" to slid into the belief that communism is "ok" because Jesus taught the same prinicpals and was a communist himself!  Does anyone else see the pattern developing here....Church
deception, false doctrines, antichrist, globalism, one-world religion?????????  Just curious to get your opinion on this if you have the time.

Thanks!
KW

Dear Fellow Christians:
Thank you for your tremendous work. I live in Malta in the Mediterranean, and the church is very young here but invariably the third wave has arrived - and that through some of my best friends. I have been unsuccessful in my trying to show them error, but without your web site I would not have been so well equipped in my argument. Now the Alpha course has arrived at the Anglican church where my ... attends, and I would be very grateful if you could give some more background information as to its errors in detail. I hear it is very ecumenical and originates from third wave doctrine. But beyond that I am not sure. Thank you again. May God richly bless all of you.
In His name,
B. P.
Browsed your web site ... this is beauty personafied ... please keep up the good work and truth .. love in JESUS
to all.
W.
Hello. I have recently run across your site, and after reading about the various prophets you mentioned, I am wondering if you have any information about a couple of prophets who have been to our church in the past couple of years ... I appreciate your web site, and I'm not one to just take what everyone says, even you, and run with it, but it does raise areas of concern and has caused me to go back to the scriptures and question if indeed we have been in an "Emporer's New Clothes" type situation. Thank you.
J.
Appreciate your work. Our church leaders (local) have been to Toronto, Brownsville, some deliverance conference in Denver and now off to "study" deliverance in India. Do you know anything about the Denver or India seminars? There has been a lot of criticism from the pulpit concerning "Counterfeit Revival"- hersey- unpardonable sin, etc. Everything down is demonized- mostly outward manisestations with little inner work- about an inch deep and three miles wide. Do you have any info at all about the India Deliverance Studies- supposedly a
group of people are going over there for training in demons and deliverance. Thanks for any help you can give me.
F.J.H.
Dear Sandy,

I greet you from South Africa and appreciate your fine work.  Recently, I was sent a report you had done on that evil man, Benny Hinn.  "Jesus Christ Slated To Star With Benny Hinn ... IN PERSON!  by Sandy Simpson, 4/2/00".  I am a follower of Christ, and preaching His Gospel is my mission. I am prepared to supply you with my background details, should you so desire.  Briefly, I am now staying in South Africa and also was during the Kim Clement years and my early walk with the Lord. I got to know him and his wife, Jayne, on a very intimate basis ... Ironically, it was Kim who led me to the Lord. However, I received the "empty cross" Jesus as my Lord and Saviour, not the fraud Kim was selling.  Please fell free to write me if you feel my information can assist you.
In His Service,
B.R.

Hello,
I was blessed to run across your site. Keep up the great work and standing for the Truth!
Blessings!
A.D.
Dear DITC,

I am very happy and delighted to get your website. Lot's of questions that I would like to know were found in your articles. Now I would say I can now boldly say that your articles help me to stand against thses growing false
practices of our church here  in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Some of these are "slain in the spirit", holy laughter, and speaking in tongues. Praise God, to your wonderful website, I know more are beeing reached to correct what the devil has wronged in Christian Churches... (1) At the moment, I am on a personal research abour REBECCA BROWN, (Curse Theory). Although I haven't read her book, But I can say that I have a discernment that the book is wrong so as the author. Please give me a background information about the author and the book. (2) MORRIS CERRULLO, the guy who made a prophsey (Y2K) of the doomsday that never came. I consider him as a false prophet, based on what DEUTERONMY 18 said. Could please tell me if this guy is still worth believing. He is still has a strong following here in Jeddah.
Looking forward to hear from you soon.
God Bless,
B.A.B.

Greetings in Christ Jesus,

I read you page, and wanted to share something with you.  I was saved nearly three years ago.  Before this time, I was a practicing witch, and goddess worshiper.  Since being saved, I have been drawn to the Revival movements and I have had a very uneasy feeling about the whole thing.  Something just touched that part of me that discernment told me was the same spirit source I used to call on when drawing down the goddess.  I have only been to two services where this "movement of God" was present, and both times, rather than feeling the Holy Spirit, I was uneasy and could not let go and worship like everyone else was.  Instead I sat as an outside observer, feeling like something was not right.

After reading your site, I know what it is!  That discernment that said the spirit was the same as I used to call on in paganism was right.  I just know t, and I know it by one thing, "the river."

The river is a major imagery in paganism, and goddess worship.   The goddess is the goddess of the river.  Doesn't even Revelation say that the great whore will rise out of the river?  While I was reading your page, an old
pagan chant that I used to sing when raising a cone of power came upon me "The river is flowing, flowing and going the river is flowing, flowing to the sea."  This was a chant we used to raise the cone of power (being filled with spirits, charged, etc.).  We would chant this chant over and over as a mantra, leading into other chants such as "we all come from the goddess and to her we shall return, like a river returns to the sea."  River imagery was
EVERYWHERE!

What you are seeing at Brownsville and Toronto and other churches across the globe (many in my county here in Ga.) is a raising of a cone of power using a mantra.  In pagan circles, spirits of the North, South, East and West are called upon.  We called upon the elements of earth, air, water and fire (notice how these elements are present in many of these "revivals" as well?). We chanted and danced to reach a trance like state where we would be
empowered from the gods and goddesses.

This is what is going on in the "revivals."  The names are different, but the elements are the same.  Any pagan will tell you that the "lord and lady" are called many names, but they are all the same.  Some pagans call their lord
Jesus and their goddess Mary, but they are not worshiping Our Jesus, who is Savior and Lord, but a false Jesus.

The connections are too similar to be coincidental.  THIS is why I have been both drawn to this, and repelled by this at once.  Satan knows my weakness, but God has given me the gift of discernment.

I was once at a church that was in "revival"  I went up front to have hands laid upon me, and a clear voice told me "Do not let them lay hands on you." And then I felt a clear indication that I was to move.  I did, and right as I
did, three women fell where I had been standing.  I left that church never to return.

The other time I felt this way, was at a Joyce Meyer Conference in Atlanta at the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit (yes Earl Paulk's church).  Joyce was supposed to have two teaching sessions that day, but when I arrived at noon,
Joyce had not even begun to preach.  People were falling out all over the place.  Everytime Joyce would pickup her Bible to start the lesson, she would start laughing, and speaking in tongues, and then she would act like she was swimming across the platform.  Everyone was hooping and hollering, and people were falling out.  I am a Spirit-filled believer, but I felt NOTHING.  I tried to get with it, and couldn't.  When Joyce did finally preach that
afternoon, it was dead, and far from the anointed preaching we had been promised, but everyone else in the place seemed mesmerized!  One spectacular thing happened that day.  Joyce said this woman had taken this picture of the church as she was leaving on her digital camera, and had taken it three times, and each time it was the same.  They showed it on the projection screens.  It showed the sky opened up and a beam of light shining right on
the sanctuary.  Joyce said this was proof of the anointing that was on that place that day.  It was amazing, even miraculous, but somewhere in my mind, I could not help but think it was all staged.

Anyway, just wanted to share this, and say God Bless you for your ministry.

In Christ,
D.H.V.

Dear fellow saints at DITC,

This was sent to me by an acquaintance, who likes what's going on at the Brownsville "revival". I thought it might be of interest to you, although you already may have received it through a different source. Reading it made me ill, and I grieve for people who are so deceived to believe this is God at work. Their intents, on the surface, seem so noble and godly, as they say they are seeking God, but they don't realize they are elevating themselves instead. Amazing also is the emphasis on the Holy Spirit, instead of on Christ and His saving grace. Let us not stop praying
for these folks. We are thankful for sites like yours, who dare to speak the truth, and we're contending in the faith with you. You are a blessing, and we pray for you. May God's grace and perseverance work abundantly in and through your lives, as you seek to serve only Him.

Blessings to you. In Christ's love,
E.H. (Acts 17:11)

I want to thank you for the prompt response.  You have been more than helpful to us.  I hope that the information will help get some of the more gullible ones out of harm's way.  They just don't seem to listen to good council even
when they know something is wrong.

We just returned from a convention in Northern Illinois where a "Signs and Wonders Prophet" was breaking bread with the congregation to receive "gold teeth.".  Needless to say we interrupted the service and then walked out. It's everywhere but we are going to do our best to reveal as much of it as we can to whoever will hear us.

Thank you again
J. & P. J.  In Jesus Name

Thank you for STANDING FOR THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a co-moderator and co-writer (prophetic news stuff) and we regularily have to fight those that support the doctrine of Hinn, Copeland and others.  Your site helps give us some bullets of truth to use in the face of such demonic doctrine (not all of it but some sure is).

Thank you again.
A.

Dear Sandy Simpson,
Just a note to thank you for the 'Benny' update.  I encourage you to keep posting about these wolves because when you send me that email, I forward it to friends and aquaintances on my email list.  I have lost more friends that way!  Because they don't really want to offend me, they don't block me from sending it to them.   I just forwarded this recent one to a Baptist Missionary who just 'loves and respects'  Benny because she went to one of his crusades and that wolf said it wasn't him doing all this, it was the Lord.  Since he gave the Lord credit, that convinced her he must be a genuine man of God!  Mind boggling!!!  So many are now asleep at the switch.  May God Bless you and your Ministry even more -
Thank you - D.S. in Burlington, Ont. Canada. (near Toronto)
I never go near that bunch at the Airport.
Well...I just wanted to say thank you....back in November I wrote about seeing Benny Hinn and being involved with someone who was...well...he was also involved with Rodney Howard Browne and the toronto blessing
movement.....It took a lot of prayer and pain to let go...  but back in March I DID IT!!!  I am recovering from the memories,....and praying for him....he called two weeks ago to tell me he was getting married to a girl who was a
new Christian....she has only know him for two months and does not know what she is getting in to......I pray the Holy Spirit opens her eyes before it is too late.........:(   I have since read extensively about the Faith Movement
teachers and others who frequent TBN....I am now more knowlegeable and grateful for this experience  so that I can now witness to others about the dangers of such a subtle twisting of the truth....It frightens me to know that even an educated person who loves the Lord can be decieved.    Keep up Gods work and thanks again....God bless! :)

P.

Dear Bro. Sandy,
Thank you for your website! I look forward to reading "What's New" and taking your "Quizzes".  I have just finished reading a book "Jesus was a Jew" by Arnold Fruchtenbaum and am now reading his "The Footsteps of the Messiah" a study of the Sequence of Prophetic Events.  His website is http://www.ariel.org he is a colleague of Jacob Prasch. Thought you might like to visit his website.  God richly bless you for ministering to His sheep in these last days.

E.K.
Lafayette, Louisiana

Thanks for all the work in putting this site together.  I was updating my research on Kenneth Copeland & found your site. Great list on recent Copeland articles. I gave Mike O (I assume you know him) my list of Copeland articles last year and it looks like it may have helped in his article on his site. ...Thanks.
From Honolulu
Please add me to your email list.  I am very interested in this since we have family members that tend to believe in Benny Hinns ministry and also that of M. Scott Peck and others.  The emails I have read and the articles on your page have been very encouraging.
Thank You
Dear Brethren,

Thank you for your information regarding Benny Hinn.  My parents and I are at odds regarding this "ministry".  After I spent 6 hours making copies and reading the information all it did was confirm to me that I wasn't hearing
things when that Denver Crusade was aired (my father taped it and I watched its disturbing presentation).

That episode had confirmed that this man was not of God.  It was like a red flag. My parents are hooked onto this like glue.  They think God gave him a gift and he is the only one who was privileged to have it.  They won't hear or read anything I have to say about it.

I went to one of those crusades down in NY and all I can tell you is that this so-called annointing felt like someone was hypnotizing me, as if someone was sucking my brain right out of my head.  The second time I went and "fell
under the spell" it knocked me on my butt and to this day I had no idea what it was.  I can testify to you that it was not of God.

Yet my parents, like many others, are uneducated, have language and vocabulary problems.  They misunderstand what is being said when the more sophisticated speakers speak.   Benny Hinn uses basic English and they feel they understand it.  Unfortunately, there are many like my parents with language and understanding difficulties as well as their ability to make educated and discerning choices.

I would like it if you could inform me of any current "chats" regarding Benny Hinn and his movement.

One other thing,  I would like to see if the people who claim are healed and would like to see confirmed testimony from their doctors.  So far to this date I hear no news or reports of feedback regarding those who claimed to be
healed.   My parents and I would like to know why isn't the national media moving in to "witness" these so called healings and report back to the public its validity?

Thank you for your investigations.  I have been investigating this for myself for two years now and now have come to terms and it is conclusive that this movement can only bring ill to all its followers.

Sincerely yours,
B.J., Framingham, MA

Hi!  I just want you to know what a GREAT website you have!!!!  Very Very informative!!!  Please add me to your newsletter list. Thanks and God Bless You!!!
AWESOME information!

I am finding more & more Arnold Murray followers in Christian chat rooms recently & I was glad to read your info here from CRI on him. I find their hateful demeanors very interesting when you refute their doctrines; they resort very quickly to hateful rudeness & name calling (real LOVING & gentle)!

I also found your Benny Hinn info real interesting. I had never paid a whole ot of attn. to him & his ministry (but was ALWAYS leary of it!!) - One night many months ago I was watching tbn & decided to tune in to one of
his shows & I was literally SCARED watching that episode. I saw him get out of control (as he said the Lord just "took over him" with this "anointing") & said that he literally couldn't contain the power he was given. He was
growling a few times & hissing like a snake as he spoke... he'd carry his "s's" a long time in a hissing fashion! (I immediately knew this was NOT OF GOD - he was anointed alright, but NOT by the God I KNOW & serve!).
He then walked right up to the camera & pointed in it saying "if anyone speaks against this my ministry or my anointing right now, a curse be on you" He literally (not in God's name either, his own) cursed anyone that would
denegrate his anointing that night!. KNOWING there is power in our words (by the spirit realm) I went on to share that demonic display with others, but called on the protection of JESUS Christ. I KNEW what I saw was demonic; my spirit just knew this was ungodly. I DO like some (ok, FEW) ministers on TBN..... I DO think they do some good for the Lord..but I just cannot figure out why they are so deceived by these types of people. (I think it has to do with the NEED for signs & wonders more than operating solely by faith).

...I'm just seeing so much FALSITY going around & it seems the MORE people get away from the SIMPLICITY of the GOSPEL, doctrinal trouble comes right behind it. It seems the MORE man studies the Bible, the FARTHER AWAY from truth he gets! What happened to the simple message of the gospel unto salvation? It seems the simplicity isn't enough or  that they think it doesn't hold any power! But the message of the cross we are told IS THE POWER unto salvation!  see more people (so called Christians) being swept away by all these wild teachers w/ a "new word" all the time. SCARY!

But it only shows me that God is RIGHT AGAIN in His prophecy; the apostacy is here & MANY will leave the faith. (I question if they ever truly knew God to begin with)!?. (1 John 2:19). At any rate, I love your web site & intend to search out more from it. THANKS alot!

Zq =0)

Hi, Sandy,

I posted your open letter to/about Hinn on a board for ministers in my denomination. Man, did I get hammered!  My rep there is none too solid, for questioning Brownsville, Toronto, etc., and for posting that stuff about Christ coming to Hinn's crusades, but when I posted your last, there were calls for my ouster, etc.

I am really finding this gadfly ministry not to be all that appealing. :-)
C.F.

Just reading your site, and remembering a verse I found the other night:

On judgement day many will tell me, 'Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' But I will reply, 'I never knew you.  Go away; the things you did were unauthorized.' --Matthew 7:22-23 (NLT)

To me, the people described by Christ in this verse sound just like many of the "Word Faith" movement teachers, preachers, etc.  Truly a falling away...

I am one of the few who is convinced that, as was spoken even by Christ, in the end times there would be no "world revival" but rather that many, even some of the elect, will (possibly) "fall away" from the faith.  The things I have read on your website all the more confirm the truth of the Word of God.

Keep up the great work!
In His Majesty's Service,

jdb

I have enjoyed reading your newletters online. Please set me up to receive them. Thank you and may the Lord continue to show you the truth in this ever darkening world...
Hi!
I just wanted to say "thanks" for the URLs you gave me regarding photos of the Pope.  I just learned about your website a few days ago and spent most of my day today "glued" to it!  Keep up the good work!
Dear Ditc,
Thanks firstly for your website, the resources are excellent and help me up here in the highlands of Scotland to expose that which opposed to God.
Keep the Faith
D.L.
Sandy, I found your website recently and want to THANK You for the love in your heart to the brethren that are deceived, and to God for obeying his word.
S.F.
You are my favorite apologetics on the net - thank you for an excellent site!!!  :) S.K.
Dear sirs,

I'm not sure whether you already know this, but you may be interested to know that the New Zealand Assemblies of God have published a statement saying "We have not, are not and do not intend to be associated with this organisation [Benny Hinn's ministry] in the future.".  This was published in Issue 18, 2000 of the Challenge Weekly Christian Newspaper, and can be found on their web site at http://challengeweekly.co.nz/Iss18.htm . This takes you to Issue 18, and you can scroll down to the article "AOG distance themselves from Benny Hinn".

By the way, thank you so much for your ministry - I have been a believer for 15 years, and only realised there was "something rotten in the state of AOG" - ha ha - after a lengthy absence from church life.  This and other discernment ministries have confirmed that there was a reason for this unease, and I am trying, with the Lord's help, to get back to His pure word.  Thank you, again and again, for your courage and dedication to your calling.  He will reward you for it!  although I'm sure you already know that!

God bless you
J.C.

As an elder in my church, I find your site absolutely invaluable for much needed information.  Ecumenism is such a poison.  Even in the church in which I serve, I see this creeping monster is beginning to have an effect.  I am hoping that, with the position that the Lord h